Okay, let’s tackle this. So Carl Tietz has 18 years of experience as an LSO Operator at Idaho Power Company. Project management roles in the energy sector typically command higher rates. However, considering his role as an LSO Operator, which might be more operational than traditional project management, I'll adjust the rate downward. Averages for project managers in the energy sector range from $75 to $150 per hour, but this role might be more on the lower end. Let’s assume an average rate for operational roles in the industry, which could be around $75 per hour.